Aave DAO’s State of the Union by ACI

Ground Zero

The Aave Chan Initiative was launched almost 3 years ago in November 2022 when DeFi was in shambles. At the time, the DeFi ecosystem had been hit hard, first by fraud from CeDeFi entities resulting in the collapse of FTX, Celsius, and 3AC. Next by the failure of Anchor protocol resulting in $6B of liquidations - a quarter of Aave’s ATH TVL. In the midst of this chaos stETH depegged. In light of these failures, regulators were coming for the industry with a view to kill it.

Internally things weren’t much better. The DAO was under the influence of extractive entities with Gauntlet and Llama raiding the DAO treasury and depleting its resources. TVL had fallen to $5B. The balance sheet was showing a $35M annualized loss. In addition to all of the above, the Genesis team had experienced an exodus of their workforce, spinouts from core team members, and was under increasing pressure from hostile regulators greatly limiting their abilities.

Externally, the open-source nature of Aave was weaponized against our protocol by extractive teams. Opportunistic teams were raising funds by copying our codebase and slapping farming tokens on top with some ecosystems complicit. These clones received significant incentives and airdrops, often bigger than what Aave received in order to create a false image of growth. When these clones eventually got hacked due to incompetence and reckless behavior, the entire Aave ecosystem’s reputation suffered from their failures.

In an attempt to compete in this increasingly hostile environment, AAVE V3.0 was launched on L2s but had limited success. At the time the protocol featured a codebase that required improvement, it many good ideas and features but lacked a coherent implementation plan and vision. This was exemplified by features such as Portals or credit delegation vaults that have never been used outside of PoCs.

In this hostile environment, “DeFi is Dead” was a widely accepted statement in the ecosystem, and giving up and pivoting away while slowly draining the treasury funds seemed the most logical thing to do.

Yet we refused to give up. We left our comfortable jobs as part of the Genesis team and joined the trenches of the DAO by launching an initiative to Make Aave Great Again. It was a complete leap of faith, without support, resources, and little to no chance of success.

But it was necessary, so we did it.

The Chainsaw Arc

18 months after the launch of the Initiative, extractors were removed, verticals wasting resources were cut, and the DAO has been professionalized with clear and efficient frameworks followed by a suite of highly skilled and focused service providers who now have explicit scopes and guardrails.

For the first time, the community had a direct impact and a voice in the future of Aave. Initiatives from ACI such as Skywards, Dolce Vita, and Orbit enshrined the efficiency of the DAO’s processes.

The Aave codebase continued to improve with the key support of former Genesis team members who spun out as BGD Labs, and the protocol emerged with a positive balance sheet and gained market share in the most competitive environment we have ever faced. At the time, the DAO was facing well-supported and well-funded competitors that had raised dozens of millions to “eat Aave”. Yet they failed to hurt Aave’s market share and dominance. This triumph was thanks to the focus and relentless work of the DAO service providers who spared no effort to ensure our success.

This period, which we call the “Chainsaw Arc,” was challenging. From our perspective, ACI was underfunded and undersupported, facing both internal and external hostility, receiving significant backlash and smear campaigns. Despite confronting these giants, in hindsight, David has prevailed against an army of Goliaths thanks to the vote delegation of hundreds of private individuals who decided to join the initiative and turn things around. Their contribution made everything possible, and while the main audience will likely never know their names, we are deeply grateful for the support of each and every one of them.

Every single achievement was hard-fought, not given. We feel immense pride seeing the remarkable results, the impressive suite of DAO service providers, and the delegate ecosystem that has built Aave’s success into what it is today.

A Comfortable Status Quo

The Aave DAO now stands on comfortable ground.

TVL, Revenue, market share, borrowing volume - every single metric is proof of the DAO’s success. Aave not only improved, but it has outperformed. We consider Aave’s dominance no longer threatened by alternatives in our vertical. The revenue-generating verticals of onchain lending: leverage (re)staking, borrowing stablecoins against BTC & ETH collateral, and yield-generating collateral carry trades are now comfortably dominated by Aave.

Our competitors are often stuck with TVL renting, long-tail asset collateral TVL growth schemes, and unprofitable distribution deals that increase their TVL but contribute little to no revenue whilst diluting their users’ yield at the expense of their native tokens’ costly incentives.

Aave’s current net annual revenue is now above the combined cash reserves of our competitors. They are now in need of new fundraising to keep up, stuck and depleting their reserves whilst we have a comfortable flow of resources to deploy towards further growth. If the market trend reverses, it will hurt the valuation of their primary source of incentives, while our cash will remain cash, and cash is king.

Furthermore, one of the key promises at the launch of the ACI - to upgrade the tokenomics of Aave and bring value to our native assets - has started materializing. Buybacks have already absorbed more than 50 bps of our total supply whilst the current revenue of Aave allows the DAO to enshrine the program, giving confidence to the market about the enduring value of our ecosystem.

Yet resting on our laurels has never been part of Aave’s DNA.

Improve, Focus, Accelerate

Now is the time to shift focus from external threats to an internal reorganization, allowing for further growth and increased dominance. The first step towards this is to make an introspective effort to assess what works and what doesn’t, allowing us to focus efforts moving forward.

Current L2 landscape

Aave’s L2 strategy at the dawn of V2 was a key factor in our success. Our early launch (2021) in the Polygon and Avalanche ecosystems allowed us to grow in uncharted territories with significant support from these ecosystems. This resulted in a mutually beneficial relationship that propelled everyone involved to the top. In 2025 the landscape is different.

While in previous cycles ecosystems were focused, in more recent times influence from VCs, opportunistic investors, captured DAOs and foundations eroded a winning recipe, resulting in L2 fatigue and dilution of success by distributing efforts in spray-and-pray schemes that prioritised short-term gains for an audience of farmers over the long-term gains that come from building sustainable onchain economies.

The lifecycle of L2s between the points of TGE and TVL-death is getting shorter and shorter. Aave has made the mistake of being attracted to these L2s by incentives that appeared attractive but appear less so once the native token is diluted by an order of magnitude or more in a short timeframe.

At this point in time more than half of the Aave instances across L2s and alt-L1s are not economically viable. Based on YTD data, more than 86.6% of Aave revenue is made on Mainnet; it is now increasingly clear that everything else is a side quest.

In light of this, the ACI has updated our doctrine toward new network deployments and is now happy to allow competitors to dilute their efforts and resources on chains that we believe present future dead ends. Our service providers’ bandwidth is not infinite, and every marginal increase in workload leads to inevitable compensation inflation.

Instead, the DAO should invest in key networks with significant differentiators such as a CeDeFi relationship allowing large-scale distribution deals as exemplified by Kraken/Ink as well as others in the pipeline, or alternatively those with a critical native element as exemplified by Plasma/USDT.

Therefore, we will publish proposals in the near future, aiming to close down shop on underperforming networks.

Friendly Fork Failure

The Friendly fork framework was a reaction to our competitor’s approach of commodifying the lending business and turning themselves into neutral infrastructure. With the benefit of hindsight, there’s little to no benefit of following a race-to-zero doctrine.

Most friendly forks of Aave have shown underwhelming results in respect of TVL and revenue, and at some times have even been weaponized by non-aligned actors to apply a very liberal interpretation of terms in order to benefit themselves at the expense of Aave.

The standout example of this is Spark, which in hindsight has been extremely damaging to Aave. On top of having very creative accounting which led to a fraction of expected revenue for our DAO, they have been and remain the strongest ally and a large liquidity provider to our competition.

Spark is currently enabling the success of the Base Coinbase distribution deal by providing approximately $600M of USDC liquidity to our competition. In addition to this they contributed to saving the same competitor from being eliminated by our Merit initiative by providing 10-figure liquidity as a counterparty to Ethena last year. Mitigating Spark damage has a cost which continues to be in the millions of dollars per year in incentives, with this cost borne by the DAO.

The other “friendly” forks have either been irrelevant in terms of revenue generated (less than 1% of our revenue) or have added friction to deploy on promising networks. It is essential to reflect on past mistakes, draw conclusions, and adapt from what doesn’t work so that we can evolve and improve.

According to DefiLlama, the top 10 Aave V3 forks account for 3.81% of Aave’s total TVL, and generate revenues equal to 9.59% of Aave’s total revenue. Importantly, these figures reflect their own revenue, not any portion contributed back to the DAO.

On this basis, the ACI is now formally against any friendly fork operated by third-party actors. Some forks might make sense when operated by service providers willing to work in ecosystems that are not a natural fit for the DAO (non-EVM or EVM-equivalent requiring custom work) or for assets outside of our current comfort zone (Horizon for RWA, Emergence market). These forks, supported as side quests for our internal service providers, must provide a larger revenue share and should never issue new protocol tokens so as not to dilute the value of Aave.

The DAO should accept that the Aave codebase will focus on quality and curation as it’s part of our brand, and allow some areas with less potential to be an opportunity for our competitors to dilute their focus.

Therefore, the ACI will actively push for a complete overhaul of the friendly fork framework in the near future.

Irrelevance of Instances

Instances were a smart innovation in early versions of the Aave V3.x codebase as they allowed to bypass eMode limitations and enable segregation of risk. They also served as an effective narrative selling point by offering focused instances with curated asset subsets as an alternative to competitors.

However, this came at a significant cost: liquidity segregation that reduced overall efficiency. While we consider the Prime instance successful, the introduction of liquid eModes now provides all the benefits of segregated instances with none of the drawbacks.

We must acknowledge that the instances paradigm has become obsolete in newer versions of the Aave V3 codebase. No development or growth efforts should be allocated towards it going forward.

The Prime instance will remain and continue to thrive.

Service Provider Alignment

The “Chainsaw Arc” was a necessary pain for the DAO to regain its financial health after a period of extraction and dominance of non-aligned actors.

This led to a culture that the ACI largely contributed to creating, characterized by an overly conservative approach to management of our resources and compensation. We fully confess to having pressured most service providers to give the best of themselves with limited resources and imposed a constant 3-year work “crunch” on them.

This was necessary, and the ACI walked the hard path alongside them, leading by example.

The situation is now more comfortable as explained in this post. We believe it’s now time to reward and secure the long-term alignment of the service providers that are undeniably the best in the industry within their verticals.

The industry has changed, and standard compensation is now offering a mix of native tokens and cash in addition to revenue sharing with service providers/curators linked to their own growth. Alongside this, our industry’s growth is now heavily linked to partnerships and institutional deals which are easily traceable in terms of success and impact.

Our current internal doctrine typically offers fixed, cash-only compensation, regardless of KPIs, with strict oversight by a highly attentive ecosystem of delegates that sets a high bar for what is expected from service providers. They are not shy about denying renewal of engagements if performance falls short of expectations.

We believe it’s time to introduce a performance linked element to some of the service provider’s compensation which is linked to measurable success metrics.

It is also important that service providers who contributed to making Aave what it is, and who are key to the future success of the Aave DAO have a vested interest in the success of the AAVE token.

This is why we believe we should explore AAVE vesting schemes tied to KPIs for some service providers that have made AAVE a centerpiece of their business.

We believe the only desirable way to do this is to have growth or growth-adjacent service providers (Tokenlogic, ACI, Aave Labs) lead deals and partnership inbound leads in a framework that empowers them to do so and in return share measurable revenue directly linked to these initiatives.

That being said, growth can only exist sustainably if risk and technical analysis work is done correctly, which is why we are in favor of also enforcing growth variable revenue sharing with risk and technical analysis service providers (Chaos Labs, Llamarisk, BGD Labs).

Introduction of this new model, additive to current fixed compensation, will likely increase our service providers’ motivation, empower them to find new growth verticals, and retain top talent in the Aave ecosystem.

The ACI will soon propose a new framework to reform service provider compensation.

From a Low-Margin Business to a High-Margin Business

Aave is now the undisputed leader of the onchain lending vertical. As previously mentioned, we have near total dominance of the industry’s cash cows.

Yet, despite this success, onchain lending is a remarkably low-margin business. 80% to 95% of all revenue created by the Aave protocol in the form of borrowing volume is returned to our LPs. Even with 70% market share and a borrowing volume that has tripled from the previous ATH, the net revenue of the DAO still stands at only $130M/year.

It is now clear that the pure lending business will not allow us to reach a billion or more in revenue in the short term, particularly in an environment where yields are compressing and arbitrage gaps in borrowing costs are shrinking.

Borrowing stablecoins in previous market conditions used to sit in an 8-12% range with peaks at 16-20% during phases of euphoria. We are now likely locked into a 6-8% range long term. As we grow and mature, rates will converge toward TradFi levels as the market becomes less willing to apply a risk premium to onchain borrowing, this will hurt our profit margins over the longer term.

GHO represents a paradigm shift because the protocol itself is GHO’s main LP. Instead of paying LPs, the protocol must focus on paying liquidity sinks, maintaining secondary liquidity, and ensuring peg strength. Even if 50% or 60% of all GHO revenue is dedicated to that goal long-term, this would effectively 4x the DAO’s profit margin compared to USDC borrowing volume.

Aave’s unfair advantage over everyone else is that the DAO built a very successful lending business before building a successful stablecoin CDP business. This allowed the DAO to leverage lending business revenue to invest in GHO’s growth.

While GHO in its initial state as delivered was a poor vehicle for growth and stability, we must acknowledge the relentless work and significant achievements of key service providers led by Tokenlogic to complete an overhaul and drive growth of the GHO product. Thanks to this work, we have now achieved a critical mass of GHO, recently enabling our first CeFi integration. Going forward GHO will continue to be strategically bundled in key CeDeFi distribution deals to increase adoption. Additionally, this critical mass of GHO provides more buffer for profitable and strategic credit line strategies, boosting revenue in line with Spark’s doctrine with USDS.

Now that GHO is 2 years old, after spending the first year upgrading it to a functional state, we believe we should continue investing in this product for at least another year, regardless of its current profitability, given its potential.

The ACI will continue to support the growth of GHO as best we can alongside the tireless work of Tokenlogic leading GHO’s success.

Growth, Growth, Growth

The current market cycle is not retail-driven; we are currently experiencing an unprecedented combination of regulatory tailwinds and institutional mass adoption of our industry. This is new, uncharted territory with new rules, new approaches, and strategies needed to win.

A noticeable and significant part of our growth over the past 18 months has been driven by key exclusivity partnerships, adoption of the right collateral, and investment in key networks.

As already outlined, Aave is in a comfortable position, and based on this the ACI’s current doctrine is to leverage our healthy finances to invest in growth and solidification of our dominance as much as we possibly can in the short term. If we play our cards aggressively enough, none of our current competitors will survive, and our head start will secure our position in the mid and long term.

The ACI has been extremely conservative with our approach to our cash reserves as we were dedicated to building a large war chest for the DAO. Thanks to this approach the DAO is now sitting on $130M of cash and cash-equivalent assets with an ever-growing treasury even with buybacks activated.

Our suggestion to the DAO is to enshrine buybacks at, or close to, current levels ($500K-$1M/week) to maintain a public signal to the market of confidence in our native token and alongside this to start spending aggressively on distribution and growth deals using our reserves over the next 18 months.

On top of this, buybacks created a large reserve of Aave tokens that can be mobilized alongside our significant BTC and ETH reserves to generate a GHO credit line with a high HF (2/2.5 minimum) made available to spend on growth deals. The ROI of these deals can be used to repay the credit line mid-term. Constant buybacks and revenue will naturally increase position collateralization, avoiding unwanted outcomes. This, in addition to our current cash reserves, would give the DAO above $100M of firepower to accelerate our growth and dominance.

A plan this ambitious calls for strict guardrails and close oversight. The DAO should carefully debate and consider this strategic vision and define via vote a suitable framework to define, limit, allocate, and follow up on investments.

No single service provider should be allowed free rein with such a large budget. A suitable option is to have several related service providers in an ad-hoc committee, akin to the current AFC, under the supervision and control of independent key delegates and service providers.

The ACI will soon propose to the DAO a framework for our growth investment doctrine.

Closing Thoughts

At the ACI, we feel proud of what we’ve accomplished at Aave over the past 3 years. We believe the industry stands at an important crossroads. Thanks to our previous success, we now hold all the cards needed to expand our dominance and grow our protocol to new heights.

If we play these cards right and sharpen our focus on what works best while letting go of what doesn’t, we will remember this period as the foundation upon which Aave built its lasting dominance in DeFi. With strategic growth investments, aligned service providers, and focused product development, we are positioned to cement Aave’s legacy as the definitive leader in decentralized finance for years to come.

Just Use Aave.

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This perfectly sums up the key role that the ACI has played in helping Aave reach its current position. I look forward to seeing how the DAO evolves with the upcoming frameworks and V4 on the horizon.

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We would like to express our gratitude to ACI for its significant contributions to AAVE. At the strategic level, I believe that RWA will be the next largest growth market. We should collaborate closely with Aave Labs and strive to achieve a leading position in the RWA market.

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It seems this part was not clear enough from feedback,

This only applies to Forks originating from Aave DAO service providers in the future. Everything already whitelisted from external teams is out of scope.

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Thanks for bringing up this topic, it is a very important discussion to have.

That said, this post seems more focused on overhauling the Friendly Fork Framework and L2 strategies, rather than providing a full “DAO-wide state of the union.” I do think the latter is equally important to address, as it would help frame priorities and direction more holistically.

In the early days, L2s played a critical role in onboarding users to Aave, especially when gas costs were prohibitively high. Today, I do believe L2s are important especially for more consumer adoption as it would be unfeasible to onboard users directly on mainnet. For instance, Base is currently onboarding the most users and showing the strongest growth in terms of user activity (not just TVL).

There are clear benefits in certain L2s like Arbitrum, Base, and Kraken from both a deal flow and growth perspective. While it is true that spinning up new L2 deployments comes with operational costs, I believe Aave as software should be able to deploy anywhere there is sufficient demand, ideally through a simple, low-cost deployment model that does not create ongoing financial strain on the DAO. The key challenge is how to do this safely, without reputational risk. This is where Aave V4 could be pivotal, enabling faster, safer deployments with built-in DAO revenue sharing and eliminating opportunities for frameworks to be gamed, as we have unfortunately seen with Spark. In practice, Spark has turned the “friendly fork” framework into a hostile one, which is unacceptable.

On the topic of instances, the problem lies in liquidity fragmentation. The current design does not ensure concentrated liquidity provisioning while maintaining risk segregation. Aave V4’s Hub and Spoke architecture could resolve this, with DAO-governed Hubs allocating credit lines to Spokes where innovations can thrive without fragmenting liquidity.

Regarding service provider alignment, I agree fixed costs were a good bootstrap model. But to scale, a revenue-share or KPI-driven model would align SPs more closely with Aave’s growth. This would not necessarily mean higher DAO spending, rather it turns SPs into performance-driven units: if Aave wins, SPs win.

Margins are another crucial point. Lending inherently drives lower margins, though it delivers high utility via collateralization. GHO has significantly improved margins (up to 10x), but it alone will not be enough. For Aave DAO to grow sustainably, we need to develop new business lines beyond lending. A DEX, perpetuals, and even options markets should be considered to bring margins above the lending baseline while mitigating counterparty risks.

Overall, there are many layers to this discussion, from L2 deployment strategy, to service provider incentives, to future business lines. I would like to thank ACI again for starting this discussion and I am looking forward to seeing the proposed new framework.

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It’s inspiring to see how far Aave has come thanks to your dedication and persistence during the toughest times in DeFi. I may be new, but I’m excited to support this next chapter of growth and responsible innovation. Thank you for your relentless commitment to the protocol and its future.

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Thanks sir.Are these new business lines you mentioned, such as dex or perpetuals, already in the planning or implementation phase? Or are they still in the consideration phase? I totally agree that we do need new business lines.

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Nice read,

Love seeing how far Aave has come, the turnaround and focus are super clear now more than ever.

I’m surprised v4 was not mentioned, since it feels like it could help solve some of the fragmentation and margin challenges, at least in the short term. With v4 on the horizon, I imagine growth of the spokes will be an important part of the conversation here too. Spokes could bring more revenue, but they might also need some support from the treasury to get started.

Looking further ahead, exploring other business lines like perps, institutional credit cards for GHO could be a smart way to diversify revenue and keep Aave competitive. Just a thought here.

I think Aave should now more than ever be bold and not be afraid to expand aggressively. Thanks to ACI for putting this together, great work as always and looking forward to all the proposals!

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Thank you for sharing this extensive retrospective and forward-looking exercise.

We recognise the opportunities outlined here: GHO’s continued maturation, the potential of growth-oriented credit lines, and the ability to leverage a robust balance sheet for market dominance. At the same time, we agree that these opportunities must be matched with safeguards. For example, the frameworks for growth spending should incorporate clear KPIs, reporting requirements, and oversight mechanisms to ensure accountability. Similarly, shifts in compensation or alignment structures for service providers must be carefully designed to reward performance while avoiding misaligned incentives or unnecessary dilution.

We also believe that diversification and sustainability should remain guiding principles. Our commitment is to carefully analyse every proposal in this light, prioritising the DAO’s long-term security, independence, and capacity to endure across cycles. We will support initiatives that strengthen the foundation of the protocol, improve alignment across stakeholders, and expand the possibilities for Aave without compromising its resilience. In doing so, we aim to contribute to a governance path that honours the community’s past efforts while safeguarding the ecosystem’s future.

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:flexed_biceps::flexed_biceps::flexed_biceps::clap::clap::clap:

Just eat up the competition!

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Big kudos to ACI and all service providers, the turnaround is real. Excited to see GHO gaining traction as a core growth driver beyond lending, it positions Aave to play a central role in stablecoin adoption and DeFi infra more broadly. Keep pushing!

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Tremendous work and achievement made by the ACI team; glad to see their hard work paying off. Onwards and upwards from now on

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First of all thank you to all ACI member for what you all did in the past and going to do in the future. And also thank you Marc for posting this status quo on the Aave DAO.

I have said it multiple times that the creation of ACI was the turning point within the DAO. From a good protocol but bad DAO to the best and by far biggest lending protocol and the best DAO ive witnessed from a delegate perspective in multiple DAOs.

The numbers are speaking for themselves which can be checked here, visible to anyone: Aave Analytics | TokenLogic

Now talking about the improvements for the future.

L2 landscape
I completely agree that in the beginning months and years it was crucial to deploy Aave on as many L2 as possible that seemed to be bringing additionally revenue to the DAO.
But this landscape has changed a lot, there are now hundreds of L2 with little to no upside or benefit to the DAO. Most of these are just VC cashgrabs, where founder exit after their token unlocks after their vesting period ends.
These L2 often do not add any significant value, user or TVL to their chains and do not have that one PMF to justify their existence unlike some exceptions like Hyperliquid.
Therefor I am supportive of winding down business on all L1 or L2 that simply do no generate enough meaningful revenue to the DAO.
This will free capacities and give SP room to focus on other ventures that benefit the DAO.

More insights on how I see new deployments happen will be shared in the upcoming proposal.

Friendly Fork
The friendly fork model had a good intention but bad execution where the DAO was too friendly towards these forks, allowing the DAO only little upside.
Im not saying its bad overall and there is a business case, also there have been great examples of good FF, but overall it needs a revamp. I tried it a few months ago and realized that the proposal also wasn’t good, and needs more work.
Insights on how I see the FF model can be seen here [ARFC] Strategic Opportunity Framework for Friendly Forks and Whitelabel Instances, although like I mentioned, there still needs to be a complete rework. As ACI is preparing something, I will wait for now and share my ideas and comments there.

Service provider alignment
This is something I have been thinking for a while now. Anyone who is willing to push Aave and the DAO to be number 1 all the time, deserves a “bonus”.
In the past the DAO had many good and bad examples of SP.
The bad ones left for competition and now pay the price for it, by getting less than what they would have gotten from the Aave DAO. If there was a KPI bonus back then, they would have not gotten it for sure.
But given that the current field of SP is absolute peak performance, they can monetize their hard work. The better their KPI, the better the payment.
Its a WIN WIN situation, as likely everyone will work even harder for themselves and thus also for the DAO.
By adding AAVE vesting schemes to this, any SP is even more focused on making Aave great and also (hopefully) the token as well.

I do have some questions here, but again, I will ask those on the respective proposal.

From a Low-Margin Business to a High-Margin Business
Continuing focusing on GHO is definitely the right choice, even if costs are huge to bootstrap big marketcap size stablecoins, its a natural match to the lending business.
I do also agree with @stani there there are likely also other ventures that can be pursued to grow the DAOs revenue like vaults with pre defined Defi yield strategies. Even if these strategies could be very simple and likely be more on the safer side of risk/reward it could boost revenue.
Basically a one click solution that deposits collateral, borrows against it based on the choosen strategy with partners like Pendle, Ethena, etc.

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We commend @ACI for its exceptional work and effective leadership, which has been instrumental in placing the Aave protocol in its current position of exceptional strength. ACI has demonstrated exceptional skill in cutting through the noise to focus on high-impact opportunities within its own scope and by orchestrating efforts among various Service Providers.

Building on this strong foundation, we see an opportunity to enhance communication and coordination further. For example, the recent contentious debates around Horizon and the V4 transition highlighted moments of public friction that suggest communication between Service Providers can still become siloed. We have often stated that Aave governance is unique in its openness to public debate and diverging opinions, so long as they are merit-based. However, the friction witnessed in those instances did not meet this standard, instead pointing to deeper communication gaps. In our 17 months of service to the DAO, we have observed other such instances.

A monthly or quarterly call involving all SPs and major delegates would be highly beneficial to foster greater alignment and synergy. Therefore, we call upon all Service Providers—specifically @AaveLabs, @bgdlabs, and @ACI—to commit to a recurring coordination call.

Regarding the specific roadmap outlined by ACI, we are largely in agreement and offer the following feedback:

  • Service Provider Alignment: We welcome the discussion on performance-based compensation and AAVE vesting schemes. LlamaRisk operates on a comparatively modest budget, and we are committed to maximizing our impact with every hour of work. We agree that KPIs for risk Service Providers must reflect the nature of our work. Our primary responsibility is the protocol’s resilience, necessitating a naturally conservative stance.

  • L2 Strategy: We concur with the assessment of the L2 landscape. While some deployments have been a net positive for user adoption, the overall cost-benefit analysis must be re-evaluated. We have seen numerous cases where our efforts are diluted across underperforming networks. That energy would be better focused on the core market. We support the proposal to wind down these less productive deployments.

Again, we support this strategic vision and reaffirm our commitment to ensuring the long-term resilience and success of the Aave protocol.

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It’s like watching your teenager turn into an adult, AAVE is growing up right before my eyes :)

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Hello DAO,

I just created my account to react and participate in this magnificent DAO. I wanted to do it during the HORIZON proposal to protest the first proposal, but the DAO took care of it.
I’ve been reading the forum for a while; I’m a loyal supporter of ACI with my voting delegation.

How I see AAVE:
The future of finance, blending finance and technology like the PayPal effect in the 2000s.
I see AAVE as the backbone of future “on-chain” finance, to which a multitude of players and protocols will be added, creating a huge global liquidity hub. In the future, it will include all the speculative aspects: precious metals, cryptocurrencies, stocks, real estate, forex, treasury bonds, and much more.
I think AAVE can become the JPMorgan of Web 3. I’m betting the majority of my assets on this DAO, and I strongly believe in it. Why? Because I myself use AAVE to place almost all my assets, I hate traditional banks that refuse loans for no valid reason, I also hate them because our money in traditional banks is not our money, we cannot do what we want with it, I myself was confronted by my bank for having invested in cryptocurrency, since that day, I have become 99% decentralized on my assets. So I want AAVE to grow and be able to save the monetary and financial freedom of the people.

Thanks to the ACI for recreating a strong DAO!
Regarding L2s, I was opposed to the idea of ​​eliminating them. For me, L2s are the blockchains of the poor, and the poor represent decentralization. But since the update made Ethereum mainnet very cheap with low gas fees, I myself have returned to Eth mainnet. I agree with focusing only on chains that generate revenue for the DAO and not wasting time and money on bullshit chains.

Regarding the low-margin market, I completely agree; lending/borrowing doesn’t generate much revenue for the DAO despite a very high TVL. We need to focus on the rise of GHO and become one of the leaders in stablecoins.
Why not create a mix of different strategies for GHO? The aave DAO has a lot of ETH; why not use the Ethena system, which works quite well? With a mix of the current GHO strategy, create a mix of strategies.
For me, at this level, Aave can hardly increase its TVL/revenue because Aave’s TVL+revenue essentially comes from ETH/BTC and stablecoins, which is very limited.
I’m of the opinion that we should focus and bet everything on the expansion of GHO and aim to become one of the top 5 stablecoins.

I agree with @stani, we should start planning a new development business. As mentioned above, Aave is reaching TVL/revenue limits with crypto lending/borrowing. Well, we still need to grow the RWA side, and soon the tokenized stock market. But when we see the revenue from dex/perps compared to the revenue from lending/borrowing, there’s no point in beating around the bush; we need to develop a business in this area. With the legitimacy, know-how, and expertise of the AAVE DAO, this could be achievable, especially since we wouldn’t be starting from scratch. The AAVE DAO has funds, no need for VCs to dump funds into the TGE, and the lending/borrowing + GHO business is running alongside.
Why not enter into agreements/partnerships with existing protocols and teams? For example, merging/acquiring Curve?

To conclude: In my opinion, increasing the buyback is pointless. It’s a good thing to show and build confidence in AAVE investors, but it’s pointless for me. Revenues are too low. Even with 100% of revenues (150 million/year), for AAVE estimated at $5 billion, that’s only a 3% “dividend.”
I also like the idea of ​​killing competitors. When they’re no longer present, we could increase our margins a little, and therefore our revenues, and become the king of DeFi.
For me, we need to focus rapidly on the expansion of $GHO. I want GHO to reach the top 5 stablecoins.
And at the same time, we need to start thinking about a new line of business, and of course, NO OTHER TOKEN, just AAVE and no other shitcoin!!!

Many thanks to ACI for coordinating this DAO, as well as all the other service providers. I’m sure that in a few years, with continued strength and hard work, AAVE will be truly great!

Just use AAVE

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What a great read and path so far! Thanks for sharing all this data and your thoughts about the future @MarcZeller. We’re proud to have been Aave’s partners for so long and to be strengthening that partnership even more with Boosted Pools, which now holds ~75% of the total TVL on Balancer v3 allocated on Aave markets across multiple chains.

We also look forward to the next chapters, like launching together on Plasma and enabling Balancer BPT (LP tokens) as collateral on Aave v4.

What the entire ecosystem has built is truly amazing, and it’s thanks to the leadership of key members like @MarcZeller and @stani, as well as the incredible work of all the teams involved. A special mention to Token Logic for our close partnership, while acknowledging the contributions of every team.

May the future be even greater, and rest assured that you will always have Balancer as faithful partners.

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I have a somewhat crazy idea, but what if the AAVE tokens in the LEND migration contract were used to acquire/merge with the Balancer DAO. The funds in there hold about the same value as the market cap of BAL, and it could be used as a way to migrate BAL tokens to AAVE tokens. This would be a quick way to get Aave into the DEX industry while being able to work with an already well-partnered DAO instead of competing down the line when/if Aave starts venturing into the DEX industry.

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Yes, I think it might be a good idea.
The DAO can’t and shouldn’t sell AAVE tokens.
But it could use them to buy back a business, like a dex, by swapping the old token that we buy back into AAVE.
The AAVE DAO has a lot of tokens, and it can’t sell them, so this would be an excellent way to use them and grow.

Buying BALancer might be a good idea. The circulating supply is almost entirely freed up, and the market cap is purchasable by the AAVE DAO. With a negotiation, we could buy back for less than the initial price, especially since I see they hold AAVE in treasury.

We see that currently the new narrative is to move towards DEX, aave must take this business.

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This is fundamentally incorrect and in my opinion deserves a broader clarification by ACI, as it might become borderline dangerous if this interpretation of how liquid emode works becomes the norm. Liquid emode does not provide “all the benefits of segregated instances without drawbacks”; in fact, it provides pretty much none of the benefits.

Separated instances have two major benefits:

  1. Complete risk segregation: if an instance fails, the other is not affected. This is especially true if risk segregation is managed properly (ie not creating interdependencies within the two - this is what happened with tETH being listed on both the core and prime instance, for example).

  2. Yield diversification: because of risk segregation, instances may offer different risk profiles and therefore different yields. This is especially useful to accomodate users who might not necessarily embrace the risk profile of the largest aave market (the core instance, for example) and looking for different risk configuration, and/or yield.

Liquid emodes provide very limited benefits on 1), and none on 2).
In regard to risk segregation, liquid emodes provide some degree of segregation only if

  • The asset is only granted collateralization power in the particular emode category, and does not have a ltv/liq threshold for the generic configuration
  • The asset being borrowed in the emode category does not have collateralization power in other emode categories or in the global configuration.

If any of the above is not true, then emode does not provide any meaningful risk segregation.
Why 2) is not achievable is pretty self explanatory.

So to conclude, liquid emodes do NOT replace segregated instances and do NOT offers all the benefits without drawbacks.
That said i am ok with the strategy outlined above in regard to V3 has it lacks the needed capabilities to provide actual risk segregation while remaining capital efficient. Strategy will need to be updated once V4 is out though as it will allow to scale better in the long term.

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